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Matt sits down with longtime friend, builder, and former collaborator Jordan Smith to trace the origins of their professional journey. Before launching his own design-build firm, Jordan worked alongside Matt on a range of projects that helped shape their shared approach to building science and craftsmanship. In this candid conversation, the two revisit their earliest jobs together, reflect on the evolution of their working relationship, and discuss the lessons Jordan learned as he stepped out to lead his own company, Smith House Co. From navigating hard money loans on spec builds to building trust with clients through quality and communication, this episode is full of real-world insights for builders at any stage in their career. Huge thanks to our episode sponsors, Pella and Huber. To learn more see the links below: